23:33 < Infinitux> Hello. 23:34 < Infinitux> Are there any blender developers here I can speak with? 23:36 < Infinitux> jesterKing: hi. 23:36 < Infinitux> So I came to this channel because I wanted to discuss business with some blender developers. 23:37 what kind of business? 23:37 < Infinitux> I'm starting a 3d graphics business and I would like to make blender my official graphics program. 23:37 < Infinitux> I'm creating a website-based business that will allow 3d artists to work online, and get paid online. 23:38 < Infinitux> Also there will be a tremendous amount of resources for media professionals amongst an array of industries pertinent to 3d computer graphics. 23:38 < Infinitux> I want to use blender as the official software because it's free, well documented, and open source. 23:39 < joeghi> Infinitux: how to create a business then? 23:40 you're welcome to use Blender :) 23:40 < Infinitux> joeghi: I already know how I'm creating the business. 23:40 < Infinitux> jesterKing: Who is the administrator for blender.org? 23:40 < Infinitux> is he/she here? 23:41 Infinitux: I do have access for one thing 23:41 < Infinitux> Okay... 23:42 < joeghi> Infinitux: I revert the question. Suppose I'm a developer|3d artist, how one will be get paid and for what? Sort of ebay business model? 23:43 < Infinitux> Similar I suppose. 23:43 < Infinitux> The clients go online, find an artist / production house and hire them to do a job. 23:43 < Infinitux> The transaction takes place onsite. 23:44 < Infinitux> joeghi: would you be interested in a business like that? 23:45 something similar to http://www.blenderjobs.com/ ? 23:45 < Infinitux> I'm not going to reveal all of my ideas, but you get the general idea of what I'm talking about right? 23:46 < Infinitux> I suppose you could compare it to that. 23:47 < KAHR-Alpha> but? 23:47 < Infinitux> It's similar I guess. 23:48 < Infinitux> Not exactly like it though. 23:48 < Infinitux> So what do you guys think of that? 23:49 < frigi> there's nothing wrong about it 23:49 With the proper effort, I guess it could work 23:50 < frigi> one of the main problems will just be to get the site well known across industries. 23:50 < Infinitux> Believe me, I'm putting far enough effort into it. 23:50 < Infinitux> That all comes down to networking and advertising. 23:50 < KAHR-Alpha> frigi: I was just thinking about this 23:51 < Infinitux> Business social networking specifically. 23:51 < frigi> Infinitux: if you can get this done properly it could be awesome, indeed 23:51 < KAHR-Alpha> Infinitux: that translates to "boring stuff" in my brain :p 23:51 < Infinitux> I already have hundreds of great business contacts. 23:52 < Infinitux> lol KAHR-Alpha 23:52 < frigi> it's not really that easy to get jobs when using blender compared to some other software packages, and bringing up good arguments to change that is what's needed here 23:52 < Infinitux> Well I'm not going to lie the other packages will be supported too. 23:53 < Infinitux> But I hope to draw in a larger group of blender users. 23:53 < Infinitux> I'd feel better about telling my customers to use something free, than trying to convince them to spend 6000 dollars. 23:53 < KAHR-Alpha> Infinitux: you'll need some sort of rating system for employers and artists 23:53 < Infinitux> I've got lot's of stuff figured out already. 23:53 < Infinitux> LOTs 23:54 < frigi> Infinitux: i guess the blender folks are the last to stop you from getting it online ;) 23:54 < Infinitux> I came here to talk to you guys about it, because before I go pointing thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people at blender, I'd like to hear from the blender people :D 23:55 < frigi> Infinitux: i think i can speak for all those who use blender in a professional manner: such a site with lots of possible customers is very much appreciated 23:56 < KAHR-Alpha> frigi: will that have an integrated portfolio for each artist? 23:56 < Infinitux> Well that's great to know. 23:56 < Infinitux> Because that's exactly what I'm going for. 23:56 < frigi> KAHR-Alpha: duuno, you gotta ask Infinitux ;) 23:57 < Infinitux> KAHR-Alpha: I'm not going to reveal all my details just yet. 23:57 < KAHR-Alpha> frigi: err, wrong one 23:58 < Infinitux> But the artists and clients needs will be met. 23:58 < frigi> Infinitux: i'm definitely looking forward to it 23:58 < Infinitux> Thanks frigi 23:58 < antont> Infinitux: the kind of business idea with Blender, and the Blender Foundation is that BF and anyone involved with Blender is usually happy about all kinds of businesses that ppl can do around Blender, but BF itself is not being a business 23:59 < Infinitux> Yes. I know BF is not a business but a group of open source software developers. 23:59 < frigi> Infinitux: do you have any idea when we can see the website online? 23:59 < Infinitux> But much the same way linux is not a business, it sure get's used in business. 23:59 < frigi> approximately ;) --- Log closed Thu Oct 01 00:00:03 2009 --- Day changed Thu Oct 01 2009 00:00 < Infinitux> frigi, I have much work to do. 00:00 < Infinitux> I'm aiming to launch in 2011 00:00 < KAHR-Alpha> Infinitux: do you have a guy to help you code it or are you going to do code it alone? 00:00 < joeghi> 2011? 00:00 < Infinitux> Yes 2011. I know it's far away, but there's more to this business than just coding a site. 00:00 < Infinitux> That part is the easy part. 00:01 < frigi> wow, 2011 is quite a while to go. considered getting some help from others? 00:01 < KAHR-Alpha> don't take security flaws lightly 00:02 < Infinitux> There is a huge amount of business garb that is prerequisite to the project. 00:02 < Infinitux> I have considered geting help. 00:02 < KAHR-Alpha> maybe, but coding such a site is _not_ the easy part 00:03 < Infinitux> My philosophy is, the less easy something is to do, the more worthwhile it is of your efforts. 00:04 < neXyon> Infinitux: to kind :D 00:04 < neXyon> KAHR-Alpha: \o 00:04 < Infinitux> :D 00:04 < Infinitux> brb 00:04 < KAHR-Alpha> Infinitux: of course, just make sure it's not hacked the day after the release and that you don't end up with pages full of porn or worse 00:07 < Infinitux> Security is not going to be ignored. 00:07 < Infinitux> A big part of that is choosing a reliable hosting company. 00:09 < Infinitux> KAHR-Alpha: Having good security professionals onboard the hosting companies staff does give a bit of reassurance. 00:09 < Infinitux> But not 100% 00:10 but more than none ;) 00:10 < Infinitux> yeah indeed. 00:10 < Infinitux> I think we can all understand the perspective of the hacker lol 00:10 < Infinitux> Usually us open-sourcers do. 00:11 < Infinitux> Geeze, my poor dog somehow broke her claw at night. 00:12 < Infinitux> She's been whimpering all day. I'm bringing her to the vet in a while. 00:15 < joeghi> hundred of thosands? 00:15 < Infinitux> So anyways - It's good to hear that there is interest from the open source community.